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Don’t force The Timeless into a relationship nor The Modern out of it.

The Modern feel the need to prove or to be proven that they are “serious” about the relationship by insisting upon it. The Timeless need you to be the best, most amazing person they can imagine ever winding up with to fall in love with you and to keep a relationship going with you.

Now, this creates two different types of people who start relationships very differently and end them for a very different reason. This also creates the Main Trap dynamic that I’m warning people against.

The Modern think they need to prove they will never leave you.

the Modern people don’t believe in “amazing people.” They believe in commitment, resilience, reliability, and unity. They believe in the power of rejecting the love of others and staying faithful to someone who they can rely on (even a family member or a friend). MIND YOU that the Modern people tend to use sex to get sexless commitment, whereas the Timeless people are the ones with whom sex is even a commodity.

The Modern should NEVER involve sex into a relationship until they are ready to reproduce. They should never bargain with sex or use sex as a lure into a relationship at all, ever. The only people they will attract in that manner are the Timeless, and that’s not a good match in terms of lasting, stable relationships.

Where the Modern feel they are holy lovers because they don’t need sex from you, the Timeless think they’re selfish vixens who lure people with sex (and romance) and then leave them high and dry but tied to a commitment once they get what they want out of the relationship – money, and security, that is. Old Soul* think the Modern are gold diggers, EVEN WHEN their intended spouse is not particularly wealthy.

the Timeless need you to prove to them sex with you will always be wild.

the Timeless want to fall in love. They want sex to be and remain a part of their relationship for as long as they physically can maintain such a relationship. They’ll get easily depressed without sex; their quality of life depends on sex and romance. This applies to both men and women.

the Timeless feel sexual and romantic relationships are the primary, more important relationships, and every non-sexual relationship comes second – their relationship with their child a very close second, and first ONLY if they do not have a happy romantic relationship with anybody.

If you want a Timeless, you’ll have to prove that you are the most amazing person they could ever hope to marry. If they give the Modern a chance when pressured to do so, that is exactly what they believe they are set out to prove: that you are, despite appearances, a masterful lover, a great conversationalist, a fun entertainer, and an all-around surprise they didn’t see coming. IF AND WHEN you fail to prove this, they’ll leave you.

the Timeless may also need you to prove to them that you actually love them – which does NOT mean “stick around and care about me” but it means “know and understand me as a person, know who I am, what moves me, motivates me, and inspires me – what makes me sexually aroused and feeling romanced.”

the Modern will criticize the Timeless for being “all about the sex,” “unable to fully commit,” and “not dependable.” THEY WILL NOT CHANGE BY AGE OR SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION. It is futile for the Modern to expect the Timeless to turn into the Modern and vice versa. Opposites here attract only the Modern, however.

Some the Timeless men have been brainwashed into believing all women are the Modern, and they may accept that bitter truth with whatever grown up men need to accept in life – just one of those things. However, the Timeless women are far less inclined to believe sex is not an option in a long term relationship, knowing “how men are.”

What confuses the Modern about the Timeless.

  • the Timeless are typically NOT sexually or romantically interested in the Modern. This makes the Modern think they’re “serious” or “above others.”
  • the Timeless can look “high class” which means they “must” be interested in providing a stable home and income to their family and someone they care about.
  • the Timeless can be prone to drug and alcohol abuse, which makes the Modern think they’re alone and depressed because they’re not loved and cared for. They may drink because they’re not romanced enough or their high IQ is driving them a little mental.
  • the Timeless are often openly looking for a relationship, but not in the same sense as the Modern are. Young Soul* are less open about it and think that because the Timeless are so obvious about it, they must be desperate for it, too.
  • the Timeless are very analytical and philosophical, and they also apply this to their relationships. This makes the Modern think they’re confused about their relationships (which maybe true to an extent) and thus educatable and malleable, which, in turn, isn’t at all true.

What confuses the Timeless about the Modern.

  • the Modern appear very self-confident and willing to move on with the commitment. This may appeal to the Timeless who is quite cautious in their relationship, and finds the Modern an easy way out of a sexual dry spell.
  • the Modern knowingly act more sexual in the beginning of a relationship, even porn-star level sexual to prove their prowess to their partner, where as a Timeless is typically a lot less show-offy and real (but still naturally sexual). This raises the Timeless’s expectations on the quality of sex they can expect in the relationship going onward. They’ll be disappointed after the Modern starts “the real” relationship and the sex will dry out possibly completely (and ignites only when the Timeless thinks about leaving).
  • the Modern are willing to fake whatever they need to fake to “encourage” and “soothe” the sometimes “superstitious” the Timeless’s mind so they’ll feel brave enough to enter the relationship. This means faking or making up soulmate, Twin Flame, or True Emotion Mirror signs and the like, as the Modern are not typically spiritual, and these things, to them, are not sacred like they are to a Timeless.

How to effectively turn off the Modern (and be alluring to a Timeless)?

the Modern are pretty difficult to reject directly. They can be a bit rejection junkie about it, so the more effective methods can be to simply turn them off you.

  • Take true love and sexual compatibility as a given.
  • Talk about sex, a lot. Talk about every kink imaginable. Talk about all the sex you’re having with other people. Tire them out.
  • If they show interest in a relationship with you, take it to mean a sexual relationship. Playfully ask them to tell you about their kinks, even if you know they have 0 or you would never actually do anything sexual with them in reality. (the Timeless are rarely interested in the Modern sexually speaking.)
  • Talk about philosophy, entertainment, complicated scientific discoveries, spirituality, “smart” stuff. (This will exhaust their brain in a jiffy.)
  • Ask them to play games or take part in social events requiring fancy dresses.
  • Have childish hobbies and collect children’s toys or other curiosities. (This can be a bit dangerous, so be a real geek about it. Knowing miniate detail about you objects of interest keeps you in the Timeless good books and the Modern’s weirdo -category.)
  • Dress in an unusual manner – an unusually formal and ‘posh’ will work unless you are in the circles where that is normal. (Formal ‘rich’ wear can tempt some the Modern but typically not. Just remember to mention you dress that way because ‘you like the style’ rather than to signal your actual social status.) At any rate, ALWAYS, regardless of your social circles, ‘break’ the stereotypical dress somehow by adding accessories that do not belong into it.
  • Talk about your pets more than you talk about any person you know. If you talk about other people a lot, make sure they are brought up in the context of a potential “third” to a polygamous soup, and avoid talking about your family and platonic friends much at all. (If you talk about your family, they better be your (nearly) grown, excitingly talented children.)
  • If you’re male dating women, talk about how romantic you are and how much you love romance. Women may find this a little risky in that the Modern men expect this.

How to drive a Timeless to the hills (and be alluring to the Modern)?

  • Talk about commitment a lot. Before you’ve even had sex.
  • Talk about your friends and family all the time.
  • Talk about marriage and children before having sex.
  • Expect them to meet your children before having sex with them, and withdraw from sex until they’ve made a commitment to you. (That should do it but:)
  • Be really coy about answering any question directly. Be secretive and ‘mysterious’ by never answering any personal question straight.
  • Don’t have pets. (Or don’t have a good reason why you can’t have them even though you desperately wish to.)
  • Ask them how much money they make in a year or how much money they expect you to make in a year.
  • If you’re a male, suggest you take her shopping. (The feminist annoyance here is that of a Timeless woman.)

 

 

 

 

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