the Survivalist* thinking and “boxes”
The Survivalist* are said to try and force others into their own box. They’d object to the idea that the Idealists* don’t want to fit into a box, because, to them, the Idealists* are CLEARLY TRYING to get into a box of some sort, rather than out of one. We are all somewhat blind to our own boxes, as we fit into them comfortably. They feel like freedom to us, but we can clearly see everyone else’s boxes.
The Survivalist*, thus, don’t realize they are just as much in a box as the rest of us. They look onto others to see what’s acceptable and what isn’t. We all do that to an extent, even individualism and breaking the rules can be a part of the box you fit in, so even the freedom of fitting into a box is limited in some boxes. 😉
The Survivalist* love the box their parent is in – no matter what it is
The main difference is that the Survivalist* are the standard box lovers. They want to fit into the box they were born in, follow in their parent’s footsteps and expect their kids to do the same. They don’t feel the INTERNAL need to change, whatever their parents do is fine by them. The Idealists* have an internal drive towards something else. They form their own personality that is different from their parents and adopt values that are foreign to their parents.
The Idealists* thinking is inborn, however, they are never sure of what they want to do unless they have to go against the grain a little. They’d probably be visibly nervous with the Idealists* thinking parents in the same line of work and with the same values they, themselves hold. They would wonder if they are simply scared of trying something different from their parents, or whether they are genuinely what their parents are. They’d probably be also disappointed in themselves if they didn’t have anything else to be interested in other than what their parents have brought to their attention.
Deliberate rebellion (even if the Idealists* is like their parent)
In that sense, the Idealists* thinking children may DELIBERATELY rebel against their parents if they feel that what their parents are into is simply TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT and they seek elsewhere just to make sure that they are what they are. They would feel depressed and scared to find they truly “aren’t anything more than a product of their own genes”. This is not to be mistaken for a coming of age rebellion, the point being that the Idealists* feel comfortable seeking for their destiny AWAY from their parents, even if they actually WERE just like their parents.
IF the child is actually the same as their parent, they are drawn to the same things as their parent, but they’d have a hard time accepting this about themselves. Me telling this may awaken false hope in the Survivalist* thinking parents of a Idealists* child, as they’re thinking “he or she is going through a phase”. The chances are they are not. Even if you manage to push them back into the fold, this doesn’t mean that is good parenting, but you’ve finally managed to break his or her will, and THAT IS NOT a sign of good parenting but narcissistic and selfish parenting.
An Idealist* parent would easily be nervous to see their kid doing the same thing they’re doing
The same way, a Idealists* parent would be nervous to see their child grow up doing the same thing he’s or she is doing. They would be concerned their child isn’t independent enough, or that they’ve been too over-bearing and pushy about their own passions and interests.
My dad is a Idealists*. I suggested once I wanted to take a course in car mechanics, not to please him, but because I thought genuinely my dad’s knowledge in cars was cool and I wanted to learn a bit myself. My dad down right forbade me from going to a grease monkey school, as he thought I was smarter than that. I do think I would have been quite a happy car mechanic, but there you go. (I was also always a bit hurt my dad wouldn’t ask me to work on his cars, simply because I was a girl.) But there’s a Idealists* parent for you. They rarely want their kid to turn out like themselves.
As a Idealists* myself, I didn’t feel scared looking for my own path, so no drama with my dad.
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**) Narcissists are Young Souls left alone to survive and they're doing their best. Their emotional age ranges from 3 to 17 -year old. The younger, the more severe the narcissism.
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