As the Survivalist* change their mind through popular opinion and the Idealists* by their own reasoning and logical arguments with others, their attraction go fame whether as a fan or as a celebrity also stems from entirely different through processes. The Survivalist* are always looking to others for an opinion. “How do we think? What is our opinion on this matter? How do we react to this?” “We” being any group that they belong into. The Idealists* look internally for their OWN opinion. “What do I think about this? What do I know about this? Where are the facts and figures that support this way of thinking? Who knows most about this topic? Who do I turn to for good, solid information that is not swayed by popular beliefs?” A Survivalist* always wants to fit into a group. An Idealist* prefers to stand out. The Idealists*, thus, make natural celebrities, where as the Survivalist* make natural fans. This is not how things turn out, though, as the Survivalist* may adapt the culture of celebrity from their parents, their group of friends, or the town they live in. A Survivalist* living in LA will most likely be pursuing a career in entertainment industry because that’s what everyone does. Anywhere else, the Survivalist* is most likely to follow int he footsteps of their parents or the town that they grow up in; if a mining town, they’ll become a miner.

A Survivalist* as a fan will look to their friends for who they idolize. At a rock concert, they do not get excited about the guy on stage, they get excited because their friends are excited. They want to feel unity to their friends, and the man on stage is just an excuse to hang out with friends. They go see the guy on stage, because the popular opinion dictates that cool teens have seen him on stage.

An Idealist* fan looks for a celebrity they can admire and respect, they are also prone to rejecting a celebrity because they are too popular and to favor a celebrity that is more of an obscurity. That is a clear flaw in the Idealists* thinking, because they are “allergic to hype”, they stand to lose out on stuff they really enjoy, just to maintain their image of an independent thinker – so this is the Survivalist* thinking hangup in a Idealists* mind. They might take clues from their friends if they value their opinion, but ONLY IF they value their “friends” opinion because of their knowledge and understanding of the topic; music or movies or whatever. (They have a tendency to hang out with people who they don’t really consider friends but just people they are stuck with in a way, unless they are lucky enough to have real friends.) It is futile to try and woo the Survivalist* on  your way up the fame ladder, because they will NEVER idolize someone others don’t, because that is a hit to their ego. All fame is built by impressing the Idealists*, because they can recognize value even when nobody else does. Build a fan base of enough the Idealists*, and they will sway the Survivalist*… The trouble is, that when you do become famous, it’s the Idealists* that will be complaining about how much better your stuff was when you first started and how you “sold out”. And they would often be right about that criticism, because your corporate backing is most likely the Survivalist*, who go by the popular opinion, the mass thinking… Although it would be far wiser to only bow to the Idealists*, who are not shy to state their strong admiration towards someone who they truly appreciate… Forcing the Survivalist* to follow suit.

The likability factor

To explain what attracts someone to fame or to an idol, I’ll describe how the Survivalist* choose the object of their affections. A Survivalist* feels popularity is the key to everything. They do not care what makes you popular, as long as you are. They also don’t care who loves you as long as they do. Therefore, they want to be popular for the sake of popularity and they love popular people because they are popular – not because they understand what makes them popular necessarily.

A Survivalist* would be happy if they would get a list of personality traits that they need to express, list of opinions they have to have, and causes they need to feel passionate about in order to be “the right type” to be loved and cared for by a lot of people. They also love and care for other people by attempting to explain to them that “these qualities are expected of you if you want people to like you”, and they do not see ANY conflict in that whatsoever in terms of what the word “you” really means.

When a Idealists* rises to fame by doing all the wrong things, their the Survivalist* thinking managers will look at them amazed, see this as a fluke of fate, and start changing their clients personality to fit what the public expects of them. They see the Idealists* being flawed beyond measure, but as long as they’re popular, they can work with what they’ve got and attempt to hide their flaws. Again, they feel no harm in that, after all; POPULARITY IS EVERYTHING. These are your professional parents; they attempt to make a Idealists* into what this community needs, despite his or her obvious flaws.

If they succeed, their original fans drop them like a hot potato.

(Only sign for the Idealists* companies if you are a Idealists*, the Survivalist* should only ever sign with the Survivalist* thinking companies. Companies of all types would do wisely to only hire within the owners own thinker type and only manage stars of their own thinker type. Much less tension and trouble both ways. Just an additional thought; the Idealists* need nothing but help to get noticed. From there on, they’re pretty good. The Idealists* like to work for themselves and to do things for themselves or with other people who are equal to them in hierarchy. The Survivalist* prefer a more communal approach to things; “I adapt to you all”, while the Idealists* would prefer the “I wish to support your individuality the same as you support mine” approach.)

the Idealists* love rebels, the Survivalist* love popular people (and pity loners)

As I already mentioned, the Survivalist* love to be popular and they love popular people. They want role models in a different way than the Idealists* do. Role model for a Idealists* is someone who supports the personality they themselves have “I am not alone being weird” but the Survivalist* takes a role model precisely as that: “That is the role I need to adapt to; they are the person I need to become”. The Survivalist* are also always confused when they see a misfit gain popularity, because they feel apprehensive about becoming like them. “They are popular but I don’t like them. I hate this, because I don’t want to be like them, but because they are popular, I must become like them.” the Idealists* don’t have that reaction to idols they don’t like. Their dislike towards an idol comes from sensing that the person has allowed others to modify them in order to become famous. “I hate you for allowing these people fuck you over!” They may not like someone at all, but if they feel they are doing their own thing, truly, authentically, they have their respect, “I don’t necessarily like what you do, but I respect the fact you are doing your own thing.” There is potentially a level of denial in that thinking however, again a hung up from the Survivalist* thinking: “I don’t think I should approve of your way of thinking because it is wrong, but I admire you for being brave enough to be unpopular.”

So. Good or bad, a Idealists* loves a rebel, but hates the Survivalist* with the image of a rebel. The Survivalist* don’t genuinely like rebels, because to them, popularity and conformity is the key to their hearts, but if they are told to love a rebel, they pretend to, because they, themselves need to be popular among their friends, and they believe being a fan of the same individual furthers that goal. To the Survivalist*, pretending to be something is enough to win their love and to earn the love of others. To a Idealists*, you have to BE what you claim to be, or you lose their respect, and also, if they settle for pretending to be something they are not, they will lose their self-respect, too. In terms of rebellion, a true rebel is that because the containment people try to push them into hurts them emotionally so that they have to rebel against it, and the Survivalist* that  pretends to rebel, is just an insult to the genuine pain they feel when being forced to conform. It would be equal to pretend to have broken your leg in order to gain sympathy from others; pretending to be in pain only to have people gather around you. (I believe making a physical example will help the Survivalist* see what the Idealists* feels when their emotional pain is mimicked for popularity.)

What is “popular behavior”

Like in that example, rebellious behavior feels comforting to a Idealists*, and unnerving to the Survivalist*. The Survivalist* do not understand the reasons behind nonconforming behavior of any kind. It makes no sense to the Survivalist* to behave in a way that would make others want to stay away from you. They also feel that behavior that makes someone popular, loved, or desired is behavior that can be mimicked to an effect. Therefore, they tend to take descriptions of behavior as instruction sheets on how to achieve a result. In other words:

the Idealists*: I stroke your hair because I feel the need to show love to you and to touch you because I think you are beautiful.

the Survivalist*: If I stroke your hair we look like we are in love and people will approve of us.

At this point, it is probably fitting to say that this sounds awful to a Idealists*, who will probably feel the need to doubt my knowledge and interpretation and take me for a cynic. I get that. It is too awful to consider to be true. It would probably also be fitting to point out that the Survivalist* – the Idealists* pattern is like a volume controller rather than an on-off switch; some people are strongly the Survivalist*, some are strongly the Idealists*, and a whole bunch of people fit somewhere in the middle. Generally speaking, however, it is relatively easy to stick people into one or the other category, and it would be, probably, helpful to mention that yes…. The Survivalist* have some growing up to do. They are like children who are mimicking their parents behavior, not knowing what it is about, but knowing that they do that often for some reason:

While the Survivalist* thinking adults have put together physical actions, they are still, partly, struggling to understand the link between an emotion and a behavior, and simply mimic the behavior in order to appear “the right way”. This is NOT a disorder or a mental impairment of any kind, it is a development stage of one’s soul. A sign of a young, inexperienced soul, that is all. We can all learn more, and like everything, all learning is simply being pointed towards a new thing; bringing one’s attention to something we haven’t been aware of before. The same is becoming aware of one’s own emotions, and the nuances in emotions. I’ll blog  more about that later, but the Survivalist* can become the Idealists* and the Idealists* can be forced to behave according to the Survivalist*’s expectations, a little like having a kid demand a tea party with no tea… And the Idealists*, just like grown ups, will sometimes appease the Survivalist* by behaving as if they didn’t notice there is no tea in the cup.

What everyone needs to know

the Idealists* are persuaded by logic, intelligence, artistic values, skill, knowledge, and ability. The Survivalist* are persuaded by popular opinion. To grow fame, always attempt to impress the Idealists* if you are a Idealists*, and the Survivalist* if you are the Survivalist*. The Idealists* are impressed by independent thinking, and individuality, the Survivalist* are impressed by sameness and predictability: “You are predictable, therefore, you know how to behave.”

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